Jul 04, 1992 12:06am DeskMate - C:\DESK Help F1 ,-----,-----------,------,------,------,---------, ,----,-----, |File | Directory | Disk | View | Sort | Desktop | |! F9|* F10| |-----|-----------^------^------^------^---------' `----^-----' | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| +--------------+ +--------------+ | TANDY USERS R PEOPLE TOO! | | EDITORS | | WRITERS | |_______________________________| +--------------+ +--------------+ | Not Really a NewsLetter, | | KENNETH UDUT | | KENNETH UDUT | | But a way to get TRS-80, | | | | JON DAVIDSON | | CoCo, and Tandy Lovers to | _______ | | | A. GUILLAUME | | Unite without Fear! | \ / | | | JOHN BABITS | |_______________________________| \ T / +--------------+ +--------------+ | Exit Esc |----\_/-+ +--------------------------------+ +-------------------------------+ / \ | | TABLE OF CONTENTS | +-----------------------------------/ C \+ +--------------------------------+ | Send virtually ANYTHING to: / \ | A:\> T.U.R.P.2. - What is it? | | ~~~~~~~ | B:\> CoCo BASIC Games w/address| | \ Kenneth Udut @ 1:107/952 | | C:\> Tandy User Since 1988 | | / K Udut on PC-Link/America Online | | D:\> Andy, with a Tandy | | \ kudut@hamp.hampshire.edu | | E:\> Adding to 1400 Laptop | | / PO Box 151 Roselle Park, NJ 07204 | | F:\> 3000NL Trouble | | | | G:\> EXIT | +----------------------------------------+ +--------------------------------+ Memory Size = 768K {but it feels like 16K, no Extended BASIC} From Ken, July 3, 1992: {Beep} This issue of T.U.R.P.2. is a bit of playing "catchup". I've been busying myself with other projects, including learning Turbo Pascal, getting re-aquainted with PC-Link (even though I officially shouldn't be there yet, for reasons to be revealed next issue), and other things. I'll be publishing T.U.R.P.2. on a regular basis, as it seems to fill a void. It will be regularly posted to PC-Link/America Online/Prominade (what are you doing with Prominade if you have a Tandy? :D ), as well as on the comp.sys.tandy Usenet NewsGroup and around the local BBS's in the Roselle Park area. Look for it and feel free to comment! --Ken A:\> T.U.R.P.2. (Tandy Users R People Too!): What is it? You. If you are a proud owner of a TRS-80, CoCo or Tandy Computer, then you very much belong here! This is basically a text file that is for all Tandy/Radio Shack computer owners to tell you one thing: YOU ARE NOT ALONE! I love my Tandy 1000 TL, just as much as I loved my 16K Color Computer. And yet, because of that, I get hassled by Ex-Tandy owners who say "Oh, those Radio Shack computers are HORRIBLE! Why, the people at Radio Shack don't know what they're talking about..." or by non-Tandy owners who'll say "Oh, Ken... a TANDY? Why, they're the most overpriced, underequiped computer around! You really got ripped off. My generic IBM clone works 1000% better than your Tandy..." I'm sure you've all gotten that. In fact, I know there's some of you out there who are on Model I/II/III/IV's, 6000's, CoCo's, and the infamous early 1000's and the 2000's, and you LOVE them, despite all the criticism! I applaud you, because you STICK with your computers! You don't fall into the trap of buying a faster computer just because it's the latest model. You don't do something because "everybody else is doing it". You are actually spending your time USING your computer instead of upgrading! "The world's an IBM/386 world out there, baby, and you gotta go with the flow". No I don't! I know I could get a different/faster computer than what I have, but why? I love my Tandy and I'm proud of it! B:\> CoCo BASIC Games and a Tandy lover's mailing address :) I think this is a great idea! Having owned/used various tandy systems since 1981 (or was it '82?), I have some great stories to contribute. (I even have a box full of Coco BASIC games I wrote if you want them too :-) Unfortunately, my Internet access will cease the end of this week. Yes, after four long years I will be graduating. If you decide to go to a paper newsletter in addition (I think it is a good idea), my mailing address is: Jonathan Davidson 3453 Dutch Village Road Halifax, Nova Scotia CANADA B3N 2S7 Let me know what you decide (if you do so before Friday) about going to paper. Jonathan Davidson DAVIDSON@AC.DAL.CA Dalhousie University Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada C:\> TYPE TURP2_2.DOC | FIND "Tandy User since 1988" From: IN%"agt!aguilla@cs.ualberta.CA" 27-APR-1992 15:36:27.35 Subj: Tandy User since 1988 I acquired a Tandy 1000EX from a user who went to an IBM clone to obtain a more economical Hard Disk. The ex-user had expanded the Tandy to where per radio shack promotional material added to more than $3000 (Canadian). As I was able to obtain the machine plus printer for a price that was equal to the latest home Tandy on the market less the expansions, I thought it was a good deal. As I am not planning to expand it further, and am quite happy with the two floppy drives and the 640K it has, I am satisfied to now. The Tandy Software (Deskmate) has a number of features I rather do without, and like to replace it with something as long as it does not cost very much (or any thing at all!). For the rest it is fairly compatible with software designed for the IBM DOS 2.1, I find the CGA OK for anything I do. Why should I change? If I would be forced to buy a new computer, I would probably not go to a Tandy unless the price would again be low enough. (And I would have to be pretty careful that the tricks Tandy plays, I can live with as is!) .....[another from August]..... Ken Udut wrote: >Overall, though... they're definately not a bad company to deal with. At >least if you don't like one Radio Shack, there's bound to be another a few >miles away! > Here in the west, a Radio Shack store is often the only one in a small town with any hope of finding someone who knows what is going on in terms of some friendly support. In the few big cities there are more stores around, and it depends who is working where. +------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ + August Guillaume + Internet: agt!aguilla@cs.Ualberta.ca + + Senior Researcher + or: aguilla%agt@cs.Ualberta.ca + + AGT Research & Development + UUCP: alberta!agt!aguilla + + 500 Capitol Square + + + 10065 - Jasper Ave + Voice: (403) 493-3677 + + Edmonton, Alberta CAN + Fax: (403) 493-4277 + + T5J-3B1 + + +------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ D:\> Andy with a Dandy Tandy [sorry - couldn't resist! --Ken] Date: Mon, 27 Apr 92 18:06:45 PDT From: abeals@autodesk.COM I have a Tandy 1000 -- I don't think it has any letters following its name -- sure doesn't on the case. It has 1 5.25" floppy [360k?], a 10meg hard drive, 640k of ram and the third [and final, sniff] slot is taken up with a card that has a DB25 and a DB9 on it. I bought the thing a year ago for a friend, who is now dead, to use as a spare. I plugged in my humungo monitor for the blind into it, cleaned up the connectors on the hard drive, ran the case and keyboard through the dishwasher [Ken was a smoker] and it works great. So what can I do with this thing? I guess I can get a centronix printer cable to plug into the edge connector on the back.. I can get a joystick so I can play M1 Tank Platoon better. There's a light pen port. There's a video port [composite video? plug into my video player? why?] There's a sound port [same sound as on the speaker?] So the thing has 16 colors [cool!] and some sort of sound chip... Any idea where I can get T1000 programming info? thanks andy, with his first ms-dos machine -- Andrew Scott Beals abeals@autodesk.com, kc6sss@n6ldl.#nocal.ca.usa.na 50.115MHz Vivu libere a>u mortu! E:\> Re: Tandy 1400 and adding another disk drive... From: HAMP::KUDUT "Y-Rights@SJUVM Listowner" 2-MAY-1992 03:55:06.69 To: IN%"petrocco@attmail.att.COM" Hmm.... I'm not sure about using an Internal-type floppy drive with the 1400. Cheapest and safest thing to do would be to look in the latest "Computer Shopper" or "PCM Magizine" for ads of discount Tandy suppliers. These companies will sell you the -real- Tandy products at a fraction of the cost. Soemtimes using a non-Tandy part with something like their laptops might not be the wisest idea. It might be worth a shot to use a non-Tandy external drive, but remember that it may not work properly. And when it comes to something like your data storage, a little extra investment can mean the difference between storage and garbage. Ask around locally and see what people think. Maybe your local computer guru can help you out. ---Ken F:\> Problems with a 3000NL From: IN%"BABITSJ@hsdwl.utc.COM" 5-MAY-1992 17:00:53.97 Hi Ken: I got your message from a BBS I believe in N.J. A Tandy Newsletter sounds like a good idea. I especially need some technical assistance, and at $95.95 can't really afford the service manual. I have a 3000NL, and appear to be having a lot of trouble with interrupts, mostly in my Chinese made video card. I suppose I should either buy name brand stuff, or buy direct from Tandy, but Tandy's prices are outrageous for the kind of equipment you get. I mean, an 8-bit video (VGA) card for $149.00? I can get a genuine 16 bit card for that price, but then again with the Tandy card I'm assured compatibility. Another sticking point is the fact that my BIOS dosen't support IDE drive technology. I can either replace the BIOS, buy a card at extra expense that privides the BIOS for the IDE controller, and again face compatibility problems, or go the even more expensive SCSI route. All this for a 286 that I've basically outgrown. Well, enough of my problems, back to the issue at hand. It would be nice to have one source to get answers and suggestions for Tandy machines. A good source for information on COCOs is the RCIS network, which is where I believe I got your address. (NO, it wasn't...I remember...I think it was The Batcave, or Kid's Playpen) RCIS (Rainbow) is at 201-967-1061, and is primarily for COCO users, with lots of support for OS/9. You can also reach a guy on the west coast named Eric Levinson who works for Tandy as a computer specialist, and is familiar with a lot of their systems. He can be reached on INTERNET as LEVINSON@vax.sonoma.edu also. I assume the hamp.hampshire means you attend Hampshire College in Amherst MA. If so, I'm basically just down the road in Ware, about 14 miles away. That should make it very easy to communicate, as long as you are attending school. Well, this is lengthy enough. I think, unless you're REALLY sharp on internet, that you can only respond by REPLYing to the messages I send to you. Either that, or I also belong to PVCC BBS in Westfield (568-4466) and can be reached through them. Good luck in your endeavor! John Babits G:\> EXIT Here's the many, many places you can send me stuff: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- K Udut PC-Link/America Online/Prominade kudut@hamp.hampshire.edu Internet/Bitnet/UUCP >INTERNET: kudut@hamp.hampshire.edu Compuserve Kenneth Udut @ 1:107/952 1:107/900 Fidonet Kenneth Udut - T.U.R.P.2. P.O. Box 151 Roselle Park, NJ 07204-0151 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * If I get some money together, I'm going to install another phone line and start up a Tandy-Specific BBS. I'd like to use XENIX as the Operating System. If anyone has experience in it (I can't afford it just yet), contact me as well :) * FREE Advertising is available. Send ads and I'll put 'em here. * Personals are available too for Tandy people that want only Tandy people! :) * In fact, any item you send to me and want in here WILL be put in! * I'm thinking of making this Paper as well as Electronic. Any thoughts? * If there are other Tandy-Specific publications, please send me a copy. * Thanks again for reading this! Have a wonderful evening! T.U.R.P.2. (c) 1992 Kenneth Udut (CopyME, CopyME!, not copyright!!)